Obamacare According to Christian Reconstruction
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 12:45:20 PM EST
Christian Reconstruction by theory does not like anything that is connected to government.  They despise government schools, public assistance and foreign policy. If they had their way the only local government agency would be a county sheriff.  It is no surprise what the group thinks about what is now called "Obamacare."
     The latest issue of Faith for All of Life carries an expected criticism of the national healthcare issue known as "Obamacare." Medical doctor  Ed Payne, gives his opinion on the new government program.  He begins his article with the words, "In perhaps the most bizarre and heinous act of Congress in the history of the United states, the Affordable Care Act (ACA) came into being."
    Reconstruction thinkers are market driven.  If you cannot afford a procedure, you must live with the market prices and forgo medical assistance.  Dr. Payne admits he is greatly influenced by R. J. Rushdoony's volumes of literature.  Rushdoony did not like modern medicine and thought it left the divine out of the healing process. Rushdonny said,  ". ..the more the state knows about you, the less safe  you are."
     The article surprised me in its end of life ethics.  People like Richard Land have promoted the idea that there is to be aggressive measures taken to prolong life.  There was to be no withholding of food, water, or antibiotics for the terminally ill.  Payne seems to make the case that we let nature take its course.  The original fear from Obamacare in our region was that the plugs would be pulled early on the elderly.  (Or as Sean Hannity would put it, the elderly white folks.) Payne wrote that it is not heroic to keep people alive for only a few more hours or days of "prolonged agony."  He does think food, water and air should never be withheld in these cases.  I found it strange that this medical doctor did not bring up the issue of other types of life support and how aggressive care givers were to be.  These are strange views coming from pro-life folks.  
      Dr. Payne believes that helping those without resources for medical treatment is like stealing from your neighbor.  He compares this to stealing food from one family to feed another. This is a typical view held by these adherents regarding government assistance.  
     To Payne, there is far too much medical attention given to the population.  Rushdoony lamented  modern medicines and suggested it was more harmful than good to the population.  Payne estimated that over %75 of all treatments for patients are unnecessary.  These viewpoints tend to neglect the obvious benefits of modern medicine and the longer lives enjoyed by Americans as a result.   It is no surprise that modern medicine is referred to as "quackery" by these writers.
     Dr. Payne does not like the modern medical practices used by his colleagues.  He notes that these modern approaches to medicine actually promote ill-health.  He wrote that modern cholesterol drugs are wrongly promoted and used false statistics to justify their use.  This doctor actually believes that medical practices in large "harms" the body and does not cure it.
     He concludes that the solution would be for Christians to provide free services or there be a pay-as-you-go system.  He has little hope that this proposed healthcare will ever come to pass.  He does predict that activity like Christians providing free services will "likely be criminalized in short order."
     Thus according to Dr. Payne, not only will Obamacare never work, neither will modern medicine.



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 Christ healed the sick. How can anyone who calls themselves a "Christian" be for withholding medical care to those who can't afford it?

by CautionIndicated on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 12:52:16 AM EST
that's easily answered, as anyone with a chronic health problem who got involved with the dominionists can testify.

If you've got a chronic health problem and a slap on the forehead doesn't instantly cure it, you're holding onto your sin.  Your problem is caused by sin in your life.  You must be wanting a "pity party" and thus sinning against God because you didn't get healed after prayers.   Or maybe your suffering and misery brings Glory to God in some mystical way.

I could go on and on.  (Yes, I've heard it all - even in "mainstream" churches.)

Their thinking is that by providing medical care, people will be supported "in their sinning" and they won't be forced to turn to Jesus.

Plus they think that government has only one purpose - war.  Support of the military and that's about it (oh, and to crush sin).  Can't waste taxpayer dollars on things like helping people or protecting people from predatory corporations... the only purposes for government are war and punishing and bringing "fear of God" to sinners, dont'cha know?

So withholding medical care for a sick person "serves God" because it makes sin that much more unpleasant, and "it forces them to confront their own sinfulness".

You see the way they think?  

(For the damned "Good Christians" out there who read this, I hope you see yourself in the mirror and come to understand why people come to hate you and your type of "Christianity" - and how evil it really is!)


by ArchaeoBob on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 10:54:38 AM EST
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Thank God for small favors. I am a physician and tend to take personally the tomfoolery and lack of scientific accuracy of other docs.  Plus, he disses his old medical school in a letter to the editor. Here's Dr. Payne's bio:

Franklin E. (Ed) Payne, M.D. served on the faculty for 25 years at the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta where he retired as Associate Professor of Family Medicine in 2000. He then worked for five years in the Emergency Department at Fort Gordon, Georgia, retiring from there in 2006. In 1980, he began writing in medical ethics, co-founding a journal, two newsletters, a website www.bmei.org, six books, and numerous articles and lectures for various Christian and secular organizations. In 2007, he expanded the same principles of medical ethics into a website www.biblicalworldview21.org and the book God Confronts Culture: The Almost Complete Biblical and Christian Worldview. His new website is www.biblicalphilosophy.org. He and his wife Jeanne have four children and ten grandchildren. He is a member of Chalcedon Presbyterian Church in Cummings, Georgia.

by NancyP on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 02:31:30 PM EST


Thanks Nancy for the info.  I am amazed that the religious right also has links with strange medical views.  Falwell used to have ads in his newspaper with all sorts of special cures the medical profession refused to reveal.

by wilkyjr on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 03:55:53 PM EST

I recall it was Job's friends who wrongly suggested sin caused his calamaties.  Jumping from the Temple is the evil temptation some use to test God.

by wilkyjr on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 09:24:08 AM EST


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