Separation of Church and State attacked in Florida
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 12:14:39 PM EST
A Central Florida organization, "The Community Issues Council" has funded a number of billboards attacking the separation of Church and State, using "Quotes" from some of the Founding Fathers.
This should be of special interest to Chris Rodda, as they're using quotes from the Founding Fathers to support their attack on the separation of Church and State.  I'm not a historian, so I don't know the context or accuracy of their quotes, but I find this very worrisome.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20090721/NEWS/907215041/1374?Tit le=Ads-Tout-Religion-in-Government

An especially chilling statement from this group is: "America's government was made only for people who are moral and religious."  Well, I'm a moral person and religious- but I do not follow a typical or standard form of Christianity.  I have friends who are not religious (especially people who have been burned by Dominionism- Walkaways).  I refuse to go to church (I'm sick of being misled, lied to, and abused).   We know that they define "Religious" as "Church-going" and in most cases "Going to MY church", and any non-Christian does not meet their standards.  

I fear these people.  They are the enemies of freedom, although they couch their arguments in Freedom of Religion (for them).

I might add that this is clear evidence that the religious right is not only still strong- but they're getting more militant (and not desperate).




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Florida, which is where I live, is one of the many homes of the Christian Taliban - groups of religious nutters who are quite willing to silence and slaughter those who disagree with them. One would like to blame the general derangement of minds in this state on the sun, but I think it is really nutter Christianity on steroids.

by leland61 on Sun Jul 26, 2009 at 09:25:26 AM EST
I've been saying for years that "Taliban II is coming, and this time it wears a cross!"  The people don't like it, but it's very accurate.

You read the dominionist goals- what they're after sounds very much like life under the Taliban.  The danger is very real too- "Christian Identity" groups seem to be on the rise in the state (there are now TWO recognized groups within a couple of miles of our house- and I've heard that there are others that haven't caught the attention of the SPLC yet!)

These people are willing to use violence to force their ideology on others- and they ARE connected with "mainstream dominionism" as much as the dominionists would like to deny that.


by ArchaeoBob on Mon Aug 24, 2009 at 01:35:43 PM EST
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These billboards got mentioned at The Daily Kos, too, recently. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/5/212716/7327

The quotes are taken out of context, examples of the Right's talent at quotemining. The one that sends chills down your spine is from Washington's Farewell Address of 1796. In it, he notes the hypocritical behavior of foreign nations that pretend to be just and equitable, while being quite the opposite. He says:

But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation (meaning violence) towards one another, and towards foreign nations ... this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world; because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Now we can argue whether Washington meant we all have to be religious, but I would argue that he, like the other Founders, stressed morality more than religious dogma as necessary for a peaceful and just society. The Xians have a different interpretation.

by wheatdogg on Sun Sep 06, 2009 at 10:50:23 AM EST
Here's my essay debunking the quotes. Exposing the lies of noseparation.org

by wheatdogg on Mon Sep 07, 2009 at 06:54:41 AM EST
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I ran into this while wandering the Web perhaps you will find the origins there or perhaps just another limb of the Octopus.

by FreeDem on Thu Sep 10, 2009 at 12:09:48 AM EST


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