Terry Schaivo back in the news
ArchaeoBob printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 11:22:57 AM EST
http://www.theledger.com/article/20090330/NEWS/903305040/1003/NEW S00?Title=Schiavo-Anniversary-Mass-Planned

Another move by the religious right- rather than letting Terry go (after an autopsy PROVED that she had severe and irreversible brain damage), they're dragging her up again.
Ave Marie University has been holding an Anniversary Mass every year (not surprising, considering the political slant that place has).  Now Terry's family is trying to get Thomas Monaghan involved.

I thought that controversy was long gone, especially after the autopsy results.  I don't have a problem with an annual mass for Terry (people have the right to do what they want and to commemorate someone they loved), but I do have a great deal of distrust for the "religious right" (or whatever you want to call them) and their attempts to use the government to void the rights and decisions of individuals.   It remains to be seen if Monaghan gets involved or not- and how much this is blown up (out of proportion).

I also have serious doubts about the reasons behind the Anniversary mass.  Knowing the "Religious Right" as I do, I would think the mass is more of a public display of their dismay at failing to gain a little more political control over the rest of us.

The whole situation was very sad- and now they're turning Terry into a political cause, making it worse.



To discuss this story, sign up for a free account

Display:
Terry Schaivo back in the news | 3 comments (3 topical, 0 hidden)
Unfortunately Terri is the least of it (5.00 / 1)
Even as Terri's body lay otherwise in good shape with millions of dollars flying about what to do about it, an obscure Texas law signed by then Gov Bush was in process of taking another victim who was the opposite of Terry Schievo.

This was a little boy who unlike Terri had a perfectly good working brain, and unlike Terri his body was a mess due to an accident, kept alive by machines that could have kept him alive for a very long time. Also unlike Terri there were no deep pockets to pay for the machines and hospital.

So at the same time as the newspapers and television were full of Terri Scheivo ad nauseum, the Houston hospital was in the process of murdering the "actually with a brain" young boy who except for a few blogs died in obscurity. There were apparently many such cases before him and, no doubt, many cases since. Nobody seems to notice or keep track. Perhaps someone in Texas could discover these real cases and put up a blog that these ghouls might save the lives of living people.

Even if they did it in Terri's name at least some good would come of it.

by FreeDem on Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 10:17:10 PM EST

Bass Ackwards (5.00 / 1)
That is heartbreaking, and the first I've heard about that.  I don't doubt it- those religious right twits do everything backwards.  They try to get help for those whom help doesn't make a difference, and deny help to those whom it would.

They practice the inverse of Triage.  Kill those who just needed a chance, and expend resources on those whose case was hopeless.

I think it may all have to do with stereotypes- the young boy had a wrecked body, so "obviously" nothing could be done for him.  Terry didn't have a wrecked body, so I suspect they were "expecting" a "miracle" - that didn't happen.  (Maybe the boy's needs required too much faith???)

It reminds me of something a friend of mine said a few years ago.  She has CP and is in a wheelchair, and people were always trying to put her on disability because she had CP.  She's a lawyer, and it would make her mad.  After several years of functioning in spite of her "little problem", she developed Fibromyalgia (which I've been fighting for many years), and she said that it was so debilitating that she was considering disability.  

The same people that tried to force her onto disability for her CP didn't want to admit the HIDDEN problem (Fibromyalgia) was truly disabling and she indicated that they tried to dissuade her from seeking disability based on contracting FMS.  

At the same time, the OBVIOUS medical condition was, as she once put it, more of a nuisance than anything; yet it was the thing they thought should be the reason she should get disability (and she once said some church people tried to FORCE her onto it because she had CP).

We talked about the irony and the way people would get things so backwards and wrong.  The upshot was that for the Religious Right: If it's not obvious- it's not real and they will say so plainly.  If it IS obvious, then they expect certain behaviors and outcomes based upon that "obvious reality"- which is very often completely wrong.

I also think it is ironic that the religious right (at least the ones I've encountered) are hostile to the Americans with Disabilities act, even though it helps people earn their own way- which is what most disabled people desire anyway!  They want so much to do away with "welfare", yet they also don't want people to be empowered to earn their own living!

by ArchaeoBob on Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 11:34:48 PM EST
Parent

It wasn't even about his Body (5.00 / 1)
What was wrecked was his parent's Finances they had blown through their bank account and the hospital refused to let him live without paying them. That was the bill the Bush signed, allowing the hospitals to kill those they could neither discharge or get paid to keep.

What outraged the kids family, and why the story made it as far as the Internet (but not the MSM), was the Millions of Dollars wasted on Terri that could have kept the kid and a couple like him with the funds to pay off the hospital for years of care. I don't think he had health insurance apparently

There was also a similar case of the girl who who did have insurance but the insurance company simply refused to pay for her new liver(? ) finally relenting after a huge protest in front of the insurance company offices, only to have to tell the mother that the child had died while they had been protesting.

by FreeDem on Wed Apr 01, 2009 at 08:59:30 AM EST
Parent




Terry Schaivo back in the news | 3 comments (3 topical, 0 hidden)

WWW Talk To Action


Cognitive Dissonance & Dominionism Denial
There is new research on why people are averse to hearing or learning about the views of ideological opponents. Based on evaluation of five......
By Frederick Clarkson (375 comments)
Will the Air Force Do Anything To Rein In Its Dynamic Duo of Gay-Bashing, Misogynistic Bloggers?
"I always get nervous when I see female pastors/chaplains. Here is why everyone should as well: "First, women are not called to be pastors,......
By Chris Rodda (203 comments)
The Legacy of Big Oil
The media is ablaze with the upcoming publication of David Grann's book, Killers of the Flower Moon. The shocking non fiction account of the......
By wilkyjr (111 comments)
Gimme That Old Time Dominionism Denial
Over the years, I have written a great deal here and in other venues about the explicitly theocratic movement called dominionism -- which has......
By Frederick Clarkson (101 comments)
History Advisor to Members of Congress Completely Twists Jefferson's Words to Support Muslim Ban
Pseudo-historian David Barton, best known for his misquoting of our country's founders to promote the notion that America was founded as a Christian nation,......
By Chris Rodda (113 comments)
"Christian Fighter Pilot" Calls First Lesbian Air Force Academy Commandant a Liar
In a new post on his "Christian Fighter Pilot" blog titled "BGen Kristin Goodwin and the USAFA Honor Code," Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan......
By Chris Rodda (144 comments)
Catholic Right Leader Unapologetic about Call for 'Death to Liberal Professors' -- UPDATED
Today, Donald Trump appointed C-FAM Executive Vice President Lisa Correnti to the US Delegation To UN Commission On Status Of Women. (C-FAM is a......
By Frederick Clarkson (126 comments)
Controlling Information
     Yesterday I listened to Russ Limbaugh.  Rush advised listeners it would be best that they not listen to CNN,MSNBC, ABC, CBS and......
By wilkyjr (118 comments)
Is Bannon Fifth-Columning the Pope?
In December 2016 I wrote about how White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who likes to flash his Catholic credentials when it comes to......
By Frank Cocozzelli (251 comments)
Ross Douthat's Hackery on the Seemingly Incongruous Alliance of Bannon & Burke
Conservative Catholic writer Ross Douthat has dissembled again. This time, in a February 15, 2017 New York Times op-ed titled The Trump Era's Catholic......
By Frank Cocozzelli (65 comments)
`So-Called Patriots' Attack The Rule Of Law
Every so often, right-wing commentator Pat Buchanan lurches out of the far-right fever swamp where he has resided for the past 50 years to......
By Rob Boston (161 comments)
Bad Faith from Focus on the Family
Here is one from the archives, Feb 12, 2011, that serves as a reminder of how deeply disingenuous people can be. Appeals to seek......
By Frederick Clarkson (177 comments)
The Legacy of George Wallace
"One need not accept any of those views to agree that they had appealed to real concerns of real people, not to mindless, unreasoning......
By wilkyjr (70 comments)
Betsy DeVos's Mudsill View of Public Education
My Talk to Action colleague Rachel Tabachnick has been doing yeoman's work in explaining Betsy DeVos's long-term strategy for decimating universal public education. If......
By Frank Cocozzelli (80 comments)
Prince and DeVos Families at Intersection of Radical Free Market Privatizers and Religious Right
This post from 2011 surfaces important information about President-Elect Trump's nominee for Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. -- FC Erik Prince, Brother of Betsy......
By Rachel Tabachnick (218 comments)

Respect for Others? or Political Correctness?
The term "political correctness" as used by Conservatives and Republicans has often puzzled me: what exactly do they mean by it? After reading Chip Berlin's piece here-- http://www.talk2action.org/story/2016/7/21/04356/9417 I thought about what he explained......
MTOLincoln (253 comments)
Fear
What I'm feeling now is fear.  I swear that it seems my nightmares are coming true with this new "president".  I'm also frustrated because so many people are not connecting all the dots! I've......
ArchaeoBob (107 comments)
"America - love it or LEAVE!"
I've been hearing that and similar sentiments fairly frequently in the last few days - far FAR more often than ever before.  Hearing about "consequences for burning the flag (actions) from Trump is chilling!......
ArchaeoBob (214 comments)
"Faked!" Meme
Keep your eyes and ears open for a possible move to try to discredit the people openly opposing Trump and the bigots, especially people who have experienced terrorism from the "Right"  (Christian Terrorism is......
ArchaeoBob (165 comments)
More aggressive proselytizing
My wife told me today of an experience she had this last week, where she was proselytized by a McDonald's employee while in the store. ......
ArchaeoBob (163 comments)
See if you recognize names on this list
This comes from the local newspaper, which was conservative before and took a hard right turn after it was sold. Hint: Sarah Palin's name is on it!  (It's also connected to Trump.) ......
ArchaeoBob (169 comments)
Unions: A Labor Day Discussion
This is a revision of an article which I posted on my personal board and also on Dailykos. I had an interesting discussion on a discussion board concerning Unions. I tried to piece it......
Xulon (180 comments)
Extremely obnoxious protesters at WitchsFest NYC: connected to NAR?
In July of this year, some extremely loud, obnoxious Christian-identified protesters showed up at WitchsFest, an annual Pagan street fair here in NYC.  Here's an account of the protest by Pagan writer Heather Greene......
Diane Vera (130 comments)
Capitalism and the Attack on the Imago Dei
I joined this site today, having been linked here by Crooksandliars' Blog Roundup. I thought I'd put up something I put up previously on my Wordpress blog and also at the DailyKos. As will......
Xulon (331 comments)
History of attitudes towards poverty and the churches.
Jesus is said to have stated that "The Poor will always be with you" and some Christians have used that to refuse to try to help the poor, because "they will always be with......
ArchaeoBob (149 comments)
Alternate economy medical treatment
Dogemperor wrote several times about the alternate economy structure that dominionists have built.  Well, it's actually made the news.  Pretty good article, although it doesn't get into how bad people could be (have been)......
ArchaeoBob (90 comments)
Evidence violence is more common than believed
Think I've been making things up about experiencing Christian Terrorism or exaggerating, or that it was an isolated incident?  I suggest you read this article (linked below in body), which is about our great......
ArchaeoBob (214 comments)

More Diaries...




All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments, posts, stories, and all other content are owned by the authors. Everything else © 2005 Talk to Action, LLC.