The Buzzflash Interview with Mikey Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 04:36:23 PM EST
The progressive news site Buzzflash has an interesting interview with Weinstein, who has a new book With God on Our Side: One Man's War Against an Evangelical Coup in America's Military, which describes the errosion of the rights of cadets, GIs and veterans who are not fundamentalists.

Here are a few excerpts:

BuzzFlash: They do allow for an atmosphere in which anyone who is not Evangelical is intimidated.

Michael L. Weinstein: The Air Force is saying: Here's our policy. If we have a religion test, of course, it does violate man's law, which is just the Constitution, which is clearly subordinated to the higher law of our recognized version of the gospel of Jesus Christ. But if we determine you're unchurched, and that's our determination, we do in fact reserve the right to evangelize you.

A couple years ago, the ranking chaplain at the Air Force Academy was exhorting the cadets in his fire-and-brimstone Evangelical dominionist service to go out at the end of the service and seek out the other members of their incoming basic class of 700 who were in the remote combat training area called Jack Valley at the Academy -- which is enormous -- it's 18,000 acres. Half the class agreed to come to his service. The other half was bivouacked about 40 yards away in camps. He orders his young charges get in the face of their classmates in their tents, demanding of their religious faiths. They were ordered to evangelize the unbelievers on the spot. And if the unbelievers still refused to accept Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior, they were to be told to their faces that they would burn eternally in the fires of hell.

BuzzFlash: You're speaking out on behalf of anyone who has a faith that's other than the dominionist variety of the Evangelical Christian movement. What I think is key, if I'm hearing it right, is that in the United States, we swear allegiance to our nation. What is happening here, if I'm understanding this, is that the dominionists, with the approval of the hierarchy at the Pentagon, are saying that their allegiance to their view of Christianity comes before loyalty to the nation.

Michael L. Weinstein: Absolutely. Their first loyalty is to their lord, which they view as, of course, Jesus Christ. Secondly, their loyalty is to the family, and third to the Constitution.

But we have our democracy because we have our Constitution. What has happened is is that from Bush all the way down the line, we hear this new mantra -- your first loyalty is to the lord, and then comes your family, and then comes your Constitution.

The problem is that in the military, we do not put our hands on the Constitution of the United States to swear to support, defend, protect and preserve a particular Biblical world view of the New Testament. Some people do actually put their hands on a Bible, or a Koran, for that matter, to swear to support, defend, protect and preserve the U.S. Constitution. This is why this country was here.

If you don't want to have separation of church and state -- and I say this to everyone in the military, all the dominionist Christians in the military and those who are outside it -- I suggest you move to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, because they have no separation there. Perhaps you'll be happier.





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A friend of mine had been listening to the radio yesterday, and was trying to call me regarding an interview with Weinstein (I'd turned my phone off temporarily).  

So many people just don't realize what a threat dominionism (or whatever anyone wants to call it) is to the US.  (I'd also add any kind of fundamentalism!!!)  Things like the interview are helping to get people to take this issue seriously.

I'd been trying to get one of the local chapters of the Democratic party to consider dealing with this issue- but I keep getting told that it's not a real issue and this sort of thinking is rather "strange".

by ArchaeoBob on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 01:18:54 PM EST


I watched Mr. Weinstein's speech on C-SPAN August 11 and agreed with much of what he said. But I strongly disagree with his defending the right of proselytizers on the street and even in our driveways. I can't enjoy a short walk to and from the grocery store and/or work without being accosted by young LDS goons who resemble Hitler youth, Moonies and other religious nuts. My home isn't safe from zealots knocking on my door wanting to convert me. They invade my space; I invariably feel guilty for turning them away--probably a result of my early education in an Episcopal girls' school.

I have shared office space with right-wing Christians and as yet haven't figured out how to maintain a calm, productive work environment while being clear I hold opposite views. Supervisors who should step in don't.

Yes, the Bush twins and Cheney's girls would be in the military if the adminstration walked the talk. Ditto for militaristic senators and congress persons. What war mongers in the highest echelons of the executive branch saw action in Viet Nam? Certainly not George the Younger. At least his father was an accidental war hero.

by bertha on Sun Aug 12, 2007 at 07:06:23 AM EST



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