Religion and historical accuracy, does it matter?
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The following is an essay I wrote for Comparative Religions class this semester.  I thought it would be a good first post.  

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Religion and historical accuracy, does it matter?

     All religions around the world contain myths that are used to explain the cosmos, provide a history of the world and the faith, and give moral and ethical guidance, but some religions are based on the lives and actions of people who really existed.  In those cases, many scholars disagree to the extent that what happened in history is actually reflected in the scriptures.  For example, was Laozi really stopped at the border of China and made to write the Tao Te Ching?  Did Moses really part the Red Sea?  Did Jesus really rise from the grave?  Did any of these figures really exist?  Did these events really take place as presented in the scriptures?  Or most importantly, does it really matter if they did or did not?  It is my opinion that they do not.  Whether a religious tale, myth, or scripture is based in part or whole on fact in no way adds to or takes away from the moral or ethical guidance or inspiration that one can gain from the story.  To illustrate this I am going to compare three religious figures that we know existed and whose existence can be corroborated (Jesus Christ, the Buddha, and Confucius) and two whose existence cannot (Moses and Arjuna).  

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Religion and historical accuracy, does it matter?

     All religions around the world contain myths that are used to explain the cosmos, provide a history of the world and the faith, and give moral and ethical guidance, but some religions are based on the lives and actions of people who really existed.  In those cases, many scholars disagree to the extent that what happened in history is actually reflected in the scriptures.  For example, was Laozi really stopped at the border of China and made to write the Tao Te Ching?  Did Moses really part the Red Sea?  Did Jesus really rise from the grave?  Did any of these figures really exist?  Did these events really take place as presented in the scriptures?  Or most importantly, does it really matter if they did or did not?  It is my opinion that they do not.  Whether a religious tale, myth, or scripture is based in part or whole on fact in no way adds to or takes away from the moral or ethical guidance or inspiration that one can gain from the story.  To illustrate this I am going to compare three religious figures that we know existed and whose existence can be corroborated (Jesus Christ, the Buddha, and Confucius) and two whose existence cannot (Moses and Arjuna).  

     Jesus Christ was born in 4 B.C.E. and died around 29 C.E. according to most scholars (Molloy, 345).  Most of what is known about Jesus comes from the Gospels of the New Testament but these in and of themselves are not historical accounts since most of them were written well after the death of Jesus by followers of Jesus (Molloy, 346).  At the time of his life, Israel was under the rule of the Roman Empire.  When he was killed, Jesus had gained a multitude of enemies including the Roman Empire who saw him as a source of political unrest. The Roman record verifies his historicity as seen in Tactitus' Annals xv. 44 (Barrett 15-16).  The Sadducees, a group of Jewish priests, found him dangerous because he might cause anti-Roman riots, and Jewish patriots felt that he was not doing enough to go against Rome. All of this was after only about three years of walking around and preaching (Molloy, 346).  These are the things that we know about Jesus.  The things that we do not know, without faith, is if the miracles mentioned in the Bible actually occurred, including the resurrection. The book Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln is one of the most well known accounts discrediting the resurrection and theorizing that Jesus had been married and had a child.  Beyond the miracles of Jesus are his words.  This is where the magic of Jesus can be found, not in the changing water to wine or the walking on the water, but in his words of universal love.  Jesus preached of compassion, tolerance, acceptance, helpfulness, forgiveness, and generosity for all people, not just his own Jewish counterparts (Molloy, 348).  This is where one finds the greatest value -- in Jesus' teachings.  These are universal principles that followers of all faiths can learn from. This was the case with Mohandas Gandhi, the great Hindu leader, who was moved and influenced by Jesus' Sermon on the Mount and its teachings of forgiveness and nonviolence (Molloy, 108).  

     As told in the Book of Exodus, the story of Moses describes a man who grew up among Egyptian royalty and fled that life after killing an Egyptian foreman in defense of an Israelite slave. Eventually he married and was instructed by God to return to Egypt to help the Hebrews. Returning to Egypt, he freed the Hebrews, and leads them out of Egypt to their new home, also stopping along the way to be presented with the Ten Commandments from God at Mount Sinai (Molloy, 295 - 297).  Twice in Moses' life he made decisions that took him away from a pleasant life in order to do something that he felt was right, ethical, and moral.  This is the amazing part of his story; not the parting of the Red Sea or the turning a staff into a snake.  Moses left comfortable lives to do something for the greater good.  While many Jews and Christians alike believe that Moses existed, there is, so far, no Egyptian archeological records/evidence that mentions Moses, a slave revolt, an exodus from Egypt, or proof of a people wandering for forty years in a desert (Molloy, 299).  Some believe that the story of Moses and the Exodus were taken from the Hyksos people and integrated into the Jewish scripture ("Hyksos").  Either way the story of Moses shows the triumph of the human spirit to endure difficulties, escape slavery and of self-sacrifice for the benefit of others.  

     Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha lived from 563 - 483 B.C.E. according to most scholars (Molloy, 136).  Born the son of a prince of the Shakya tribe, in modern day Nepal, Siddhartha grew up in a life of luxury, married at a young age and had a son, and was educated and trained in preparation for taking over his father's role.  One day he disobeyed his father, left the royal grounds, and was incredibly moved by the suffering he encountered, so much so that it made him question the meaning of the human experience and as a result sent him into a great depression.  In reaction to this depression Siddhartha left his home and family in an event that is called the Great Going Forth. He went into the world seeking spiritual guidance and leading a very austere life.  Eventually Siddhartha realized that living a life of moderation was the practical way to lead life and after a long period of meditation, which according to legend included battling temptations offered by an evil spirit, he awoke with a new state of understanding of the world, karma, and suffering (Molloy, 120 - 123).  From his Enlightenment came the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eight Fold Path, according to the Dharma (Molloy, 128 - 131). As with Jesus and Christianity, Buddha's teaching transcend Buddhism.  Whether he meditated for a week or forty days prior to his Enlightenment is not important.  Whether Buddha had truly seen his past lives during meditation is not important.  The specific events themselves do not matter.  What do matter are the universal values that can be learned from his teachings and applied in everyday life.  

     The Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita, is written in the form of a dialogue between the prince Arjuna and the god Krishna (Molloy, 86).  Arjuna is a hero from the Hindu epic Mahabharata, of which the Bhagavad Gita is a part of ("Arjuna").  According to legend, during a great battle, Arjuna became depressed when he saw friends and relatives on the enemy's side, and threw his arrows away, giving up on the battle.  In response Krishna appeared and explained the importance of duty, work, and action to Arjuna:  "Now you shall hear how a man may become perfect, if he devotes himself to the work which is natural to him.  A man shall reach perfection if he does his duty as an act of worship to the Lord" (Molloy, 86).  Arjuna is an important figure in Hindu scriptures, but it is most likely that he did not exist.  His literal existence though does not take away from his importance to Hindus or the message of the Bhagavad Gita.  Because the situation in this scripture takes place around a battle, it has been interpreted to be an allegory for fighting against dangerous moral and psychological forces within oneself, like ignorance, selfishness, and anger.  The primary proponent of this interpretation was Mohandas Gandhi (Molloy, 86), and the overall message is clear - overcoming human weaknesses benefits both the individual and society.  

     Most scholars believe that Confucius lived from 551 - 479 B.C.E. (Molloy, 212).  Unlike most of the other figures mentioned in this paper, there isn't anything mystical or spiritual about Confucius, his life, or his teachings.  There are legendary stories that describe Confucius and Laozi discussing philosophy, but those are legendary and may not have happened (Molloy, 213).  Confucius believed that the human being is capable of greatness but achieving greatness comes through education, contributions to others, and through fulfilling one's obligations to those people, which creates an orderly society.  These people included family members, teachers, ancestors, and even government officials (Molloy 229).  Confucius spoke of virtues, known as Confucian virtues, which include consideration and thoughtfulness of others (Ren): proper behavior based on the situation, etiquette (Li); doing unto others what you would have done to you (Shu); devotion to ones family (Xiao); and love for education and the arts (Wen) (Molloy, 234 - 236).  These are just some of the values and philosophies taught by Confucius and his followers, which helped to shape the cultures of China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam ("Confucius").  But these teachings have a universal appeal as well.  

     The five figures I have listed are just scratching the surface of my greater point.  One could also use Mohammad, Zoroaster, Laozi, or Abraham, just to name a few, in this analysis to show that it is the stories of these figures and the meaning gleamed from the stories that matters most, not whether they lived or if the events outlined in scriptures literally took place.  There are great lessons, morals, values, and virtues to be learned from the Bible, the Torah, the Dharma, the Bhagavad Gita, the Analects, or any other religious text.  The point is not determining the historicity of the religious figures or defending the literal nature of the events in these scriptures.  The point is learning the wisdom from the words that have helped in guiding the lives of millions throughout the world and throughout history.  

Bibliography

"Arjuna."  Wikipedia.  2007 < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna>

Barrett, C. K. The New Testament Background: Selected Documents. Harper Torchbooks/the Cloister Library. 1956. 1961:15-16

"Confucius."  Wikipedia.  2007 < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucius>

d'Aulaire, Ingri and Edgar Parin.  Book of Greek Myths.  Doubleday & Company, Inc.  1962

"Hyksos."  Wikipedia.  2007. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos>

Molloy, Michael.  Experiencing the Worlds Religions: Tradition, Challenge, and Change; Third Edition.  McGraw-Hill.  2005




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the historicity of the other preachers the author cites is not relevant, for all they offer is moral codes. and the state of the world shows how effective they are. that is to say not at all. As for then mention of Moses time prohibits my posting on that. I will focus on the historicity of Christ If the historicity of christ does not matter then surely it follows that his teaching is not wisdom, it is simple naive fantasy and dreaming. Only a lazy minded fool would look at the viciousness of man and say "blessed are the meek" unless he were God incarnate and powerful enough to return in power and glory and condemn the violent, judge them and then turn the earth over to those who showed they had obeyed Him in person by being meek. IOW this teaching only makes sense if there is a new covenant whereby supernatural power available to change lives, where there is a second coming, a last judgement, and a resurrection of the dead. otherwise it is, merely a pretty ideal, insane in its aspiration, cute in its expression, and a useless as tits on a bull. to think otherwise is to cherry pick christ's teaching, ignoring huge swaths of it. only a wet behind the ears mother's boy who never grew up would come up with christ's teaching. If there were no God. you cannot reject Christ's historicity and claim he was a wise man. If he was not a fool because he never existed then the church were idiots who got themselves martyred for pure madness and besides, they have never even attempted to live up to the moral teaching the liberals live to refer to. the logic of the biblical teaching is that it is woven into His person and His divinity. This the Religious Right miss by ignoring his teaching, but this the liberals also do by ignoring his divinity. Rather than give us this empty talk which we have seen disproven over 2000 years look at the real world and get real!! the moralists were dreamers if there is no God, realpolitick is all, power comes from the barrel of a gun or the edge of a sword, and no one ever gave a toss for the poor. this will never change - THis is not only the case it is necessarily the case if there is no God. If there is no true religion. this kind of thinking as i see in this article seeks to patronize religion to death, for it waters down its doctrines but destroys any reason why its teachings should be taken seriously. the best that can be offered is "it is a nice idea" but clearly not so nice that anyone actually bothers to do any thing about poverty and injustice If there is no God and therefore no valid religion then the Marquis de Sade was right afer all: what is, is right. (or rather what is simply is, right and wrong are meaningless) moral categories are therefore meaningless, and any who will not go to full fledged philosophic nihilism simply want to have their cake and eat it too. the full logical implications of atheism are nihilism but most are too squeamish to go there Moreover the author of this piece has further shot himself in the foot by taking seriously that self indulgent farrago of nonsense Holy Blood Holy Grail. Its "reasoning" was the same quality as von Daniken's. this piece does not help against the religious right, it only shows confused thinking. As such any intelligent Rightist who sees this will feel encouraged in his heresy

by strefanash on Fri May 18, 2007 at 04:31:47 AM EST

The point of this essay was not to patronize religion in any way; in fact it was quite the opposite.  None of use lived in the time of Christ so we cannot know what he did or did not say and did or did not do.  What we do know almost entirely comes from the Bible, which is not in and of itself a well researched historical document.  It is a grouping of parables, sermons, and stories that we decided and voted upon by the many followers of Christ.  Yes he lived and yes he did amazing things, but whether or not he was divine isn't the point.  But I'm getting off track in my response...  

The greater point of this essay was to lift up all religions to the same level.  I am someone who whole heartedly believes in God, I just doubt what people do in God's name.  To me, and I know this is a very religiously liberal view point, God has taken different forms for different people throughout the centuries.  Different cultures have had different names for God and over time God has sent different messengers and prophets to help guild those on Earth who has lost their way.  Some may see this as heresy and I'm sorry if you do, but that just shows that you are missing the point.  The universe is a vast and diverse place, thus it is not logical to assume that everyone can believe in the same thing (religiously at least).  So it would make sense that different names have been given to God by different peoples.  

Speaking of God, I find it interesting that you seem to assume that I do not believe in God.  At no point in my essay did I express anything to that affect and I'm curious to know what made you assume my lack of faith.  


by oklahomalefty on Fri May 18, 2007 at 10:56:30 AM EST


Hello, Oklahomalefty - I'll tell you why it matters whether bible stories are historically accurate or not - because people need to know if what they're being told is fact or fiction, myth or legend. The value of the information may be very high, regardless of its origin, but people are being deceived and misled if something they are told as if it is factual, is not. For instance, there is great value in the story of "The Emperor has no Clothes" but everyone knows it's a fairy tale. There is no ancestral home of the Emperor that has become a tourist attraction and no formalized worship of the little boy who called his bluff. Such is not the case with the story of Exodus. I know, because when I tell people what I've learned in Finkelstein and Silberman's "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts" - they are incredulous - especially Jewish people, because they've heard these stories their whole lives and assume they are factual. People react by blocking the information, or presuming I've lost my mind (though they know I am otherwise quite sane), or getting angry with me for trying to influence their beliefs. I have gotten though to a few close friends. Their reaction is to chastise clergy for not being straight with them and to tell their children that Exodus is "just a story" so their children won't be misled as they have been. I think clergy are out of touch with the damage they do by not being straight about their knowledge of the origin of bible stories. The result is another generation of deception - a terrible legacy for clergy and just the opposite of what's expected of them.

by efavorite on Tue May 22, 2007 at 01:05:06 PM EST
I had never really thought about it like that, but you're right.  Treating a potential myth like history does set the stage for dishonesty and deception (even if those who are doing the deceiving don't realize that they are passing on a lie).  I just wish people would take the great lessons to be learned from the Bible and other religious texts for what they are...great stories that are not necessarily historically accurate (and potentially completely made up) but stories that, whether base on history or not, teach lessons worth learning.  

by oklahomalefty on Thu May 24, 2007 at 12:28:16 AM EST
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Hello, again - thanks for the response. Are you a divinity student? Do you have direct access to theology professors? If so, please share this discussion with them. People are not going to "take the great lessons to be learned from the Bible and other religious texts for what they are..." unless clergy make clear what they are. I agree, I don't think most clergy are actively lying, but I do think some have tuned it out, or are lying to themselves, or avoid the whole subject because of the repercussions it would have on their livelihood and their whole way of life. It's a big, long game of "don't ask, don't tell" that I think will eventually crash down on organized religion, and clergy will get the deserved blame for it.

by efavorite on Sat May 26, 2007 at 12:06:19 PM EST
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Well, I'm not a divinity student nor do I have access to theology professors, so I'm not going to be much help there.  This essay was written for a Comparative Religions class.  Eventually I will be joining the Religious Studies program at the University of Oklahoma but I'm not there yet.  

Interestingly, our most spirited class was the one covering Christianity.  There were a few people in the class who had a hard time believing that it was possible that the things in the Bible didn't actually happen.  


by oklahomalefty on Sat May 26, 2007 at 11:08:38 PM EST
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Good - when you get into the religious studies program, don't forget to bring this up to your professors. If you're a regular church goer, you could also approach your clergy there. I know it would take nerve, but it's a pretty important thing to do. I'm glad to hear that your class was spirited and that students felt free to speak out. OF course they had a hard time accepting that things in the Bible didn't actually happen - they had been taught these things were factual. They were deceived by people in authority whom they trusted.

by efavorite on Mon May 28, 2007 at 09:11:23 PM EST
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There indeed is no proof whatsoever that Moses existed- indeed his name ("Moshe" is the spelling I remember) would not have been used by the Egyptians.  It's not an Egyptian name, it is an ancient Aramaic name!

There are finds that support some parts of the Bible, and others that tend to disprove other parts.  Most people don't realize that there is only ONE archaeological find so far that even begins to support the existence of the Kingdom of David, and that may not refer to the House of David as a dynasty but to a location!  (The Tel Dan stele.)  There have been NO finds that support an exodus.  If it had happened as stated, there would be solid archaeological evidence.  It would be found.  (Beware of all of the false "finds" such as the faked wood from Noah's ark- proven to be a hoax!)

Indeed, there WAS a group of people exiled from Egypt during the reign of Ramses the Great, who is considered to be the Pharaoh of the Bible.  It wasn't anything like the Bible describes, however.   I forget what the group was made up of (they came from the mideastern region), but as I remember it wasn't that big.  So, an exodus of sorts may have happened, but not necessarily as related!

Taking the old testament literally, and basing one's faith on it is very dangerous.  That leaves one's faith open to being destroyed by one single find.

Of course, like the fundamentalists do today- they could just reject the find and claim that the scientists are liars.

Could there have been a real King David?   Yes.  Could there have been a real Moses?  again, yes.  The question is not if these people existed- it is that the writers of the Bible believed that they existed.  We should base our faith on God, and not on the literal meanings of a series of books that were handed down for generations, written, re-written, translated, translated again, and so on.

What do these stories tell us?  That should be the root question.

(My personal belief- that these stories were the teachings of a people trying to explain their experience of a Living God.)

by ArchaeoBob on Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 01:46:25 PM EST



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