Every Nation has something to hide
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Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 11:26:19 AM EST
For about 10 months, the Every Nation article on Wikipedia has been under on-again, off-again mediation because the gangsters in Brentwood have a conniption fit over anything critical about them.   It's part of their clumsy attempt to ignore the overwhelming evidence that they are, in fact, a repackaged and revived version of Maranatha Campus Ministries, one of the most notorious campus cults of the 70s and 80s.

Well, it's on again after yours truly and a bunch of other EN refuseniks on the FactNet anti-cult message board tweaked it a bit--check out the article's history to see it (edits by "Blueboy96"--yours truly--and "Osakadan" are from the good guys).   See the talk page to follow the discussion.

In particular, EN, through its communications director, has been somewhat upset at excerpts I added in from a speech made by Jim Laffoon, their chief "prophet," at their 2004 world conference.  In this speech, entitled "To Reach and to Rule," Laffoon announced that the organization was changing its name from Morning Star International to Every Nation in accordance with a vision God had given him.  According to Laffoon, Every Nation is part of God's plan to retake the world from the devil.

My good friend ulyankee--the intellectual leader of the EN refuseniks--has a copy of the CD from that conference, and kindly transcribed it here.  Here are some excerpts:

  • "I’m here to tell you today that God looks down from heaven, as much as He hates sin, He has a plan for the earth. He looks down at every movie mogul. He looks down at every empty educator. He looks down at EVERYONE stealing the values of our children, and says, 'You’ve got to be kidding if you think you’ll thwart my plan on the earth. I have a plan you don’t understand! I have a plan for every campus! Every school! Every specter of society! Every region of the world! I have a plan! And though it’s so dark you cannot see it, my plan is going to win.'"
  • "I’m utterly convinced, as I stand here tonight, that God has raised up this family in the earth to reach 'every nation in our generation.' But the ultimate purpose of God is not for us to reach every nation, it is to raise up a generation long after my generation is gone who because they have reached nations can begin to rule nations! Have you ever wondered why the church has spent two thousand years reaching the same nations OVER and OVER and OVER again? It’s because we’ve only set a goal of reaching them and not understanding what it is to rule them, and one generation reaches them, and never transfers the burden of rule to the next generation, and we reached them over and over and over in a cycle! I’m here to tell you, the generation of Phil [Bonasso] and Rice and Steve [Murrell], our generation, will plant a church capable of reaching that nation, in every nation, but your generation, twenty-five and under, thirty and under, God wants to install something, God wants to do something, where we not only begin to reach nations, we literally begin to possess them."
  • "Let me tell you, for all your might, and all your power, the thing the enemy fears is not you, it’s what you’re capable of birthing! The thing the enemy really fears in [?] for tonight, in Camp Morning Star tonight, in the students tonight, the thing the enemy fears is not Phil and Steve and Rice, it’s what the synergism of their lives can BIRTH and PRODUCE! What the enemy really fears, in the end, is not just another church plant. It was the fact that that woman was pregnant with something as you read on, that was not just going to reach nations, it was going to rule nations. That scared the enemy. You see, when the enemy finds an apostolic family under authority, when he finds a people who walk as family, with power over the enemy, filled with righteousness [builds] yet realizing their great destiny on the earth is not just to shine and not just to look good, that they are there to somehow birth a generation that once they’ve paid the cost to reach every nation they could hand those nations to their children and their grandchildren and say, 'NOW RULE THEM!'"
  • "...before it’s done, God will give us hundreds of apostles and prophets, evangelists, teachers, pastors, thousands of campus workers, but it’s only the beginning, for they are going to equip the greatest army of professionals, and lawyers, and doctors, and entertainers, and fashion designers, and politicians, and mayors, and congressmen, and congresswomen, and athletes, and entertainers that the world has ever seen. And that’s why I say tonight, movie moguls beware, ungodly dictators be afraid, anti-Christ political systems be worried, ungodly educators your day is coming. For we believe that the kingdom of God can come to the earth as it is in heaven. We believe that we are called to not only reach but to rule. We believe that we are called to change history. We believe that we are called to produce a generation that will rule. I believe that one day we will leave to our children NATIONS and REGIONS and CONTINENTS!"
And yet, EN would have you believe that this isn't what the ministry (and I use the term very loosely here) actually believes.  Let's see, your chief prophet (and, as of a reorganization of Every Nation in 2006, a member of the International Policy Council) makes this speech, and is not only not condemned, but actually applauded for it.  Yep, you heard it here--after this speech, Rice Broocks, this outfit's then-president (now second-in-command to fellow ex-Maranathan Steve Murrell) encouraged the crowd to "thank the Lord tonight for what we've heard."

Now let's say, for the sake of argument, that we're making this up.  The best way to solve it would be to put up the actual video (which is now available at the Every Nation store) or audio online.  Unfortunately, if anyone outside of EN were to do so, it would be copyright infringement.  However, if EN Productions were to give permission for that speech's video and/or audio to be released, that would be another matter.  Or they could post it to their extensive archive on YouTube (see for yourself--here's what a search for "Every Nation" on YouTube yields).  And yet, ever since I suggested this on the article's talk page a few days ago, the silence has been deafening.  I can only assume one of two things--either EN is trying to goad us into breaking the law by putting the actual speech online, or they're just not interested in mediating the article in good faith.  Why else would they be sitting on their hands about it?

Now, why do you suppose that EN wouldn't want this to get out?  It's not just their clumsy attempt to ignore the overwhelming evidence that it is a revived and repackaged version of Maranatha.  I suspect another factor is that in late 2006, Shrub named EN's highest-profile black minister, Brett Fuller, as a member of the President's Board of Advisors on Historically Black Colleges and Universities.  Now, you don't suppose that if this speech were to get legs that this appointment would go down in flames, do you?  I think so.

(cross-posted at The Christian Dem Home Journal)



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The text you've quoted from the conference is, frankly, not anything all that unusual today. If anyone doubts that, I suggest you get yourself a DIRECTV satellite receiver and tune it to channel 365. This is what people involved in the so-called "Apostolic-Prophetic" movement sound like, and they're all over GOD TV, the extension to the U.S. of the "God Channel" in the U.K. And this rhetoric is by no means limited to those identifiable as being in that "movement," it's just all over the place and not easily bottled up into any one container or identifiable as coming from one initial source.

Also, there's nothing in what you quoted that supports a Maranatha connection directly. This kind of rhetoric is now everywhere, not just part of Maranatha and its decendants, real or alleged.
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Acquire the Evidence: on Ron Luce, Teen Mania Ministries and the "BattleCry" campaign. acquiretheevidence.com

by Mike Doughney on Tue Feb 27, 2007 at 12:31:22 AM EST

that EN is falling all over itself to prove that it ISN'T Kingdom Now, but just a run-of-the-mill charismatic group. They claim to have renounced all of Maranatha's more extreme teachings. That's basically what they've whined about in the haggle over the EN article on Wikipedia.

by Christian Dem in NC on Tue Feb 27, 2007 at 10:08:51 AM EST
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Mike, ChristianDem's post doesn't get into the Maranatha history of the group, but the fact is that Every Nation (formerly known as Morning Star International) is probably the largest and most successful descendant of Maranatha Campus Ministries.  Most of the top leadership of this group were MCM ministers/leaders, several of their key churches were former MCM chapters, and even some of their affiliated ministries (ie Champions for Christ) were former MCM ministries.

I don't claim that EN "is" Maranatha but I do claim that it is directly descended from Maranatha.  I believe there is more than enough substantiated evidence for this claim.

I also think it is misleading for EN to now say publicly on its website that it does not subscribe to "dominion theology" when there is a thirty year history of the same, through the present day as documented by sermons, podcasts, etc.  However, they have a thirty year history of lying and evading their true history, practices, theology, etc. so this shouldn't be surprising.

You may be EXTREMELY interested in this group as well as EN's former president Rice Broocks has networked with Ron Luce.  You probably recall that FORCE Ministries, another EN subministry has staged military-style demonstrations at Acquire the Fire events.

BTW, I don't consider myself the "intellectual leader of the EN refuseniks, lol" but do consider myself someone who is concerned with the truth about this group, which historically has been more influential than its size may reflect.

by ulyankee on Wed Mar 07, 2007 at 08:16:06 AM EST
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Mike, if you want more substantive evidence of Every Nation's history, you can find it here:

http://www.geocities.com/ulyankee

If you have any questions or need further confirmation/documentation of anything posted there, feel free to write me at ulyankee@yahoo.com.

by ulyankee on Wed Mar 07, 2007 at 08:18:01 AM EST
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is that they have invited Ron Luce to their 'Leadership Conference' this July.
http://www.everynation.org/en/top/media/ron-luce-from-teen-mania- ministries.html

Needless to say here that Luce is notorious for his calls for war and dominion.

This is the type that should be behind bars in any civillized nation.

by azano on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 09:51:00 PM EST
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 Every Nation known as His People's Christian Church in South Africa, is a sinister reconstructionist movement, that has stopped at nothing to try and further its extreme agenda. Some of their members' activities that they would like to remain unknown in the USA  is gunrunning in African conflicts, smuggling of blood diamonds, attempts at election rigging in  South Africa and money laundering of capital through property investments in South Africa and the United Kingdom. This has been reported here on Talk 2 Action: http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/9/24/6279/95220 and http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/cheap/2006/cheap1006.html?navC enterTop
http://blogs.salon.com/0003494/2006/02/24.html#a481
http://blogs.salon.com/0003494/2004/10/25.html
http://blogs.salon.com/0003494/2006/12/02.html
http://everynationmsiexposed.blogspot.com/
http://www.strauss.za.com/afric/wdb_election_2004.html

by azano on Tue Feb 27, 2007 at 07:41:11 PM EST
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It's a shame to see that the Every Nation article on Wikipedia has been under mediation for so long due to the insecurity of a few people.  peter veres best breast cancer treatment  It's clear that they are trying to silence the evidence of their dark past as Maranatha Campus Ministries, a notorious campus cult from the 70s and 80s. It's time to open up and face the truth, rather than trying to hide from it.

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