abortions = the plain facts

Who doesn't get them =>
surely gay men don't
surely transgendered people don't / can't .. their bodies are altered surgically
surely most lesbians want children to raise as they don't have male partners

Who does that leave getting abortions =>
surely that means only or mostly straight women get them after having some sort of personal event that leads them to it.

ABORTIONS - NOBODY- LIKES - THEM
WHO - DOESN'T - GET - THEM - gay men don't
-- transsexuals - can't
-- lesbians don't
except in case
of rape
-- feminist - womyn +
men were
educated about
their
sexuality and
use protection or
ask a mate
to get pregnant

ABORTIONS WON'T BE NEEDED WHEN -- daughters +
sons are
educated
about their
sexuality +
not shamed
for it
--- when males
don't rape but
find other
outlets
--- when women
may die due
to pregnancy
/ complication
---- when scared
females
are given
proud choices
UNTIL THEN --suport adoptions --
by gale males
transsexuals
lesbians + all

WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD BRIDGES TO THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT BY ALLOWING GAYS AND LESBIANS ETC TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ADOPT CHILDREN THAT MAY BE ABORTED. IF WE CAN CONNECT WITH THE RELIGOUS RIGHT AND GET THEM TO SUPPORT GAYS AND LESBIANS AND STRAIGHTS THE ABILITY TO ADOPT THESE CHILDREN BEFORE THEY ARE ABORTED WE COULD SURELY BUILD BRIDGES TO THEM AND DOWPLAY THIS ABORTION ISSUE. THIS WILL ALSO HELP TO BUILD BRIDGES WITH GAYS AND LESBIANS AND THE RELIGOUS RIGHT.

YES IT WILL TAKE SOME FUNDING OF WOMEN SEEKING ABOTION BY THOSE SEEKING TO ADOPT BUT IT COULD BE A WAY TO PLEASE BOTH ENDS AND SHOW THAT GAYS AND LESBIANS ARE NOT ALL ABOUT ABORTION SINCE MANY SEEK TO ADOPT CHILDREN.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT IF A WOMAN STILL WANTS AN ABORTION THAT SHE SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE THE CHILD AND LET GAYS AND LESBIANS ADOPT IT BUT I AM SAYING THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN AVENUE FOR THIS ACTION.

WE NEED TO BUILD BRIDGES NOT LINES IN THE SAND.

DANIELLE CLARKE

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a different view to consider
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By navy wife 29 minutes ago
i am not sure i agree or disagree with what you are saying. i probably come pretty close to the christain right that you mention, however i do not believe christains will support the adoption of babies by gay/lesbians anymore than they support abortion. i do not believe in abortion either. although i do believe that this issue does not belong in politics. however the issue of educating our young boys and girls on having a "sense of reverence that all young people should have for the act of sexual intimacy" is an important issue that Obama is addressing. (Obama, Reconciling Faith in Politics)
i think Obama is focusing his efforts on educating our young through the teachings of the Bible, as he is quoted as saying: "My Bible tells me that if we train a child in the way that he should go, when he is old he will not turn from it." (Obama, Reconciling Faith in Politics)
He is leaving the "choice" up to the individual to hopefully make the "right" decesion based on their previous teachings.
i am aware that we live in a secular America, and by acknowledging this we as americans need to define the line between church and state. "Civil religion supports the nationalistic agenda of 'advancing the United States' while Christian faith is committed to advancing God's transnational kingdom." (Lutzer, Why The Cross Can Do What Politcs Can't, p.42) The abortion issue belongs to one's own faith, not to the (liberals/conservatives)democr ats or republicans.
I think Obama is making a wise decesion on his stand for abortion rights/ education of our younger generation.
Re: a different view to consider

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By Danielle 4 minutes ago
I am glad to hear your views. I think everyone has a view and a right to share it here thats what makes this site so wonderful. Myself i too don't like abortion but i am trying to build bridges not draw lines in the sand.
It is important for everyone to know that gays and lesbians and transgender/transsexuals don't have them but it is the heterosexuals who do.

Members of the GLBT are seeking to save lives through adoption and the far right should respect that.
Feminist also are mostly highly inteligent people who also have training in birth control.
That leaves basically the children of the religous right who feel ashamed due to their lack of training in birth control (who end up seeking private abortions out of disgrace) and the ignorant as the ones seeking abortions generally speaking.

Again my point is to build bridges and so i hope and pray the truth of this matter does come out exactly who are the ones who seek abortions.

I would hope Barack Obama sees this truth as well and helps to spare the lives of these unborn children by offering another alternative. Thusly to help members of the GLBT access to adoption.

bye
respectively yours
Danielle Clarke

what is needed
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By Sxxxx Xxx 16 minutes ago
I had many people saying I should get an abortion because I was 19 and unmarried. I choose to have my son and it had nothing to do with whether or not abortion was available or not. It had more to do with my respect for life and my family values. Before we can really reduce abortions we need to increase the respect for life and the family values of the nation. In the end it is still a personal issue that only a pregnant woman can answer.
Re: what is needed
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By Danielle 8 seconds ago
I totally agree. Choice is the answer and alternatives in choice gives more answers.

PS: This thread is in many groups that i am a memeber of so many people in a wide mentality of ideologies are able to read this and respond.