How Daniel Dennett brought me to love Jim Wallis
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 03:22:05 PM EST

As a raised Catholic who returned to the church about 12 years ago, I have been leery about Jim Wallis' call to reject ideology and instead criticize those on both the right and the left in regards to their views on the combination of politics and religion.  My belief has been that the religious right needs to be countered more aggressively by abandoning attacks of the secular left and more directly countering the religious right, even if the perception would be that you're taking an ideological stand.  I became even more concerned as friends who would be considered good progressive Christians from the left side of the political spectrum, started aping Wallis by bad-mouthing the secular left.

Believe me, Wallis had left a bad taste in my mouth about the movement to counter the religious right. 

What does all this have to do with Daniel Dennett? 

I just finished Daniel Dennett's Breaking the Spell.  Dennett, an avowed atheist, has written a book about applying scientific analysis to the origins of religion.  There is much to criticize in this book, as several published reviews have; but, there is also much to praise in looking at an intellectual approach to religion in our rapidly changing world.

The thing that ended up shocking me the most from reading this book was a bell ringing in my own personal views of Wallis and his movement.  Specifically, although Dennett never mentions Wallis or even anything like Wallis' movement within Breaking the Spell, one of his conclusions leaves little doubt in my mind as to what he feels about Wallis' activities.  Dennett makes this conclusion toward the end of his book.  He specifically challenges the moderates in all religions to challenge and fight the fanatics who are spreading toxic memes.  He challenges the moderates to counter the literalist interpretations of various religious texts.  

This makes sense to me.  And it also gives cover to Wallis.  Wallis, is nothing if not a moderate.  He is doing exactly as Dennett challenges us to do.  Ironically, the balance of attacks that Wallis uses also goes directly against  the Daniel Dennett's of the world (the secular left).  But I think Dennett, and most atheists, are used to such attacks and shrug them off easily.  For atheists, it's not the attack on themselves that they most fear, it's the unbridled rantings and creating of memes from religious fanatics that they don't trust.  Moderate religionists use reason along with faith when considering their beliefs.  It's the absence of reason within the fanatics that concern Dennett the most.

So... I accept and support what Jim Wallis is doing now.  I still have some concerns about his tactics and approach, but let's just say that his heart, and his mind, are in the right place.




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I have not yet read Dennet. Perhaps, unlike Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris, he is actually of the left. The others embrace neoconservative militarism and a fanatical all-means are justified against Islam that are far from the views of the range of the left, religious and otherwise in America.

As for Wallis, he actually makes no substantive criticism of the left, because he names no one and offers not a shred of evidence to justify his screeds.

I have no quarrel with Wallis advancing his ideas for a more just society, and I don't care what his reasons for doing so may be.  However his attacks on the Left are as dishonest as the day is long -- at least during daylight savings.

When publicly challenged to name a single person who is engaged in opposing, as he alleges, people of faith participating in the public square or anything remotely like it, he has publicly declined.

by Frederick Clarkson on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 08:13:44 PM EST

I've only read this one book by Dennett, so I'm not sure how aligned he is with Hitchens and Dawkins, but he seems to be proposing to fight fanaticism with better ideas and with reason. I didn't see any references to militarism as a solution. However, he does call out radical islam, christianity, etc., as forces that need to be countered. He also has great disdain, and no sympathy from what I could glean, for Marxism. So I wouldn't call him far left, by any stretch.

by rusty on Sun Dec 16, 2007 at 09:20:20 PM EST
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Not everyone would agree that Marxism is on "the left"- many social scientists I know would not and I do not.

Liberalism has, unfortunately, come to mean "government intrusion into everyone's lives"- when it does not.  If anything, we advocate the government limiting big business (greed) and enforcing standards of equality (fighting racism, sexism, etc.)

We also advocate that the elites of society bear their fare share of the burdens for infrastructure and society- instead of the poor and middle class supporting the rich (as is actually happening now).

In a Marxist society, you just replace one set of elites (the rich) with another (politicians and bureaucrats).  This stems from the biggest failure of Marxism: the "Iron Rule of Oligarchy".

by ArchaeoBob on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 12:42:41 PM EST
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