After the election
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Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 11:49:13 AM EST
Some observations I've made, now that the election has been over for several days (admittedly based only a few samples- but I think that they are telling):

Unlike when Bush won (when conservatives were crowing in the faces of liberals about it- I experienced that several times), after this election the reaction I've noticed is progressive/liberal people expressing a sense of joy and relief with each other, and the conservatives have been very nasty towards us and don't want any hope or joy expressed at all- even if we're just talking among ourselves.  I must state that the conversations were not "crowing"- but sincere expressions of joy and hope and relief!!!  So far, I've only seen these sentiments being directed at a conservative- after that conservative's expressed hatred for Obama and his trying to tell us that it was wrong for us to feel joy or relief that Obama won!!!

The dominionist lies being told about Obama are still being spread- and believed by those who are spreading them (the latest I've heard pushed was that he's the Antichrist although I know that has been going around for months now!!!)  In fact, the lies and distortions seem to be getting much worse!

Some of the more conservative people I've encountered are expressing the hope that Obama fails miserably, and the economy gets far worse- even though it would hurt them!  They WANT to see him fail and have expressed so!!!

More in the body...

Some of the more "Christian" (read dominionist-leaning) people have become far more nasty and offensive.  I've heard it expressed that evil won in the US- and they accuse us of supporting evil and the devil.  Their "trigger" is much more sensitive- and I've seen "Christian" bloggers go off on comments that were entirely innocuous and not even connected to the election!

Friends from overseas are rejoicing in the possibility of change- and have expressed being puzzled and offended by the angry American "Christians" they encounter who are getting very nasty.

Any comments about Palin are met with an attitude of "the elections are over- stop beating up the nice lady!!!" yet they constantly are on the offensive- less than a couple of weeks later- against liberals and Obama.  I swear I think some of these people think Pain walks on water!  They certainly have expressed the attitude that she's the best candidate to come along in THEIR lifetime!  Anything that is the truth about the lady is met with "tin-hatter!" and worse, even if you provide links to the evidence.  (NOTE: In a couple of cases, I was "talking" with someone I knew- and the "Christian" broke in with those sorts of insults.)

I am more in agreement with the other posters who say that the public discourse needs to be changed.  I also wonder just what is being said in the churches that the people I've encountered go to- because they do all seem to be spouting from the same playbook.  It is very disturbing to me that because their candidate didn't get elected, they are working on polarizing this country even more.  Now, I've heard rather nasty things said about the (Religious Right/dominionists/fundamentalists) and while I agree with the sentiments, at the same time I do think that the public discourse needs to be changed.  I doubt that anything we do will change the discourse directed at us, but we do need to find a way to get the tone softened without compromising with something we totally disagree with.

I might add that I don't go to conservative or dominionist blogs.  The few blogs I've gone to are progressive/liberal, neutral, or about non-religious subjects.  Yet these things have been observed on those blogs and in, as a friend of mine puts it- the "meat world" (in stores, waiting lines, public areas at school, and other areas).  I don't go to conservative/dominionist blogs and insult them (and I would be angry at any liberal who did)- and I wish they would stop doing that to us.

Anyone who thinks the "Religious Right" is in decline should come to central Florida and listen to the public discourse on the streets and really examine the talk on the blogs.   I tell you- it's getting a bit scary!  (And don't forget that there are many times more threats against THIS President-elect than there were against others in the past!)




Display:
Since I posted my observations, the rhetoric on the streets seems to have tamed down quite a bit, although there is still a rather troubling undercurrent in some of the blogs.

The discourse from the "right" is now more along the lines of a disgruntled "wait and see what happens".

Some have expressed fear of government micromanaging personal lives- and their taxes raised (to be given to "lazy bums and foreigners").

by ArchaeoBob on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:44:12 PM EST



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